tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7558605733870770326.post9056459387472126927..comments2019-11-19T11:22:53.458-08:00Comments on Anarchy Downunder: State Claims Ownership of Newborn DNAAlexhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05710707959282543949noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7558605733870770326.post-18398439739198126202008-04-03T05:27:00.000-07:002008-04-03T05:27:00.000-07:00but being proud of ones country in the nation-stat...<I>but being proud of ones country in the nation-state sense - because one happened to be born within its territory - seems quite ridiculous to me.</I><BR/><BR/>Ah, I see! Well, when you put it that way, I'm sure that there are plenty of American citizens who aren't proud of being Americans either, as well as plenty of Australian citizens!<BR/><BR/>I tell you, I'm very worried about the new trend - people proud to be corporate citizens!Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05710707959282543949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7558605733870770326.post-46451625042118386392008-04-03T01:11:00.000-07:002008-04-03T01:11:00.000-07:00I don't really see how being born into a country a...<I>I don't really see how being born into a country and pride are related to the DNA thing, but ok.</I><BR/><BR/>It's the same twisted logic.<BR/><BR/><I>Careful with this argument. Immigrants might have chosen their new country, but they certainly didn't do anything to achieve it's success either! The ancestors are the ones who make it (good/bad), and this I believe is where peoples pride lies. I know you're a second generation, so i'm not suprised you don't feel much pride in being "Australian" as such. For myself, being connected to the first fleet, my family has a rich and long history here. That certainly helps.</I><BR/><BR/>It's nothing to do with immigrants. It's just logical that since I really have done nothing, worked at nothing or achieved nothing and yet I'm still automatically considered a member of this 'team' from birth. I have no problem in being proud of a culture or the geographical landmass where one is a part of of lives, but being proud of ones country in the nation-state sense - because one happened to be born within its territory - seems quite ridiculous to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7558605733870770326.post-9558932636850718222008-04-02T15:43:00.000-07:002008-04-02T15:43:00.000-07:00I don't really see how being born into a country a...I don't really see how being born into a country and pride are related to the DNA thing, but ok.<BR/><BR/><I> really had a choice in the matter or did anything to achieve it. </I><BR/><BR/>Careful with this argument. Immigrants might have chosen their new country, but they certainly didn't do anything to achieve it's success either! The ancestors are the ones who make it (good/bad), and this I believe is where peoples pride lies. I know you're a second generation, so i'm not suprised you don't feel much pride in being "Australian" as such. For myself, being connected to the first fleet, my family has a rich and long history here. That certainly helps.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05710707959282543949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7558605733870770326.post-19733855775766770552008-04-01T22:20:00.000-07:002008-04-01T22:20:00.000-07:00Our legislators declared that if the parent doesn’...<I>Our legislators declared that if the parent doesn’t specifically opt out, they are presumed to have “informed consent” and have opted in.</I><BR/><BR/>That says it all, doesn't it? Sort of like the same way that if you are born in a country you are expected to be proud of it even though you never really had a choice in the matter or did anything to achieve it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com